Desktop Spotlight, a leftover or what?

BadHellie

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Hi, this time I can finally attach my Win10 preset, now that it is approaching perfection (WARNING, inappropriate slaughterworks content, not for susceptible people).

However for few seconds after boot I notice these suspicious tasks in Task Manager (despite Suspended):

-Windows Backup (5)
>Global.Accounts Background ...
>Global.DesktopSpotlight Back ...
>Global.IrisService Background ...
>Global.RulesEngine Background ...
>Windows Backup Background ...

What is that ??
Note that I did NOT remove Windows Backup because I need it and I judge it an useful tool. However, I DID remove Desktop Spotlight (which *should* originate from Windows Feature Experience Pack if I don't go wrong, component which I have REMOVED).
Also, not clear what IrisService is about.
But why these 5 Backup tasks on startup ? I required no backup anywhere ! Should I fight to remove those someway of can I judge them harmless ? They disappear after 10-15 secs or so.
I don't want bloats or things which however may slow down my system (in my preset I think I managed to remove pretty all annoyances and bloats, but surely more will still come out)
Thx
 

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Didn't see this component in your preset
microsoftwindows.lkg.irisservice

And for the others, it's the "Client.CBS" component, but it can break things you use
I deleted it, and no problem for my use
 
Thanks Tistou77, much appreciated ! I could *never* have figured out alone any relationship between the spotlight-thing and iris service !
I will test !
 
tistou77, sorry I checked better, there is no microsoftwindows.lkg.irisservice component with this name, rather I see that iris service is from Windows Feature Experience Pack, which I HAVE removed ! What is up in your opinion ?
 
I have this component in "Placeholder"

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You don't have this component and it appears under Windows ?
Have you checked if this component is present in NTLite under Windows (if it appears in the task manager, you should have it) ?
 
It is strange and I cannot explain what's up here. See the screenshots 1 and 2. I have removed the Windows Feature Experience pack, which (standing to the description) contains both MicrosoftWindow.Client.CBS, DesktopSpotlight, IrisService and more.
But when I install the ISO and boot, in Task Manager I often notice things like the one I described in the original post. Well, actually it changes slightly !!! Now I see this (see screenshot 3).... I can't really say what that means... ok they are all suspended, but how can I have a Global.IrisService and DesktopSpotlight if I have removed the Feature Experience Pack ??
Nuhi confirmed that my workflow is correct, and no update should get applied AFTER my tweaks to nullify them... so ? :rolleyes:
 
You don't have this component ?

Windows Features Experience Pack - LKG.IrisService
 
As you can see from my screenshot above, NTL here lists "Windows Feature Experience Pack". Not "Windows Features Experience Pack - LKG.IrisService". In my case, iris service, spotlight and other stuff is just listed between parentheses. And I have removed it of course as you can see from the unchecked box. As I said, Win10 22H2 here (build 19045.5073).
This is driving me crazy. Now at boot I found the same list of "child" tasks but... under Microsoft Text Input Application !!!
See the screenshot. Still Global.IrisService and Global.DesktopSpotlight listed ! This group of tasks is short-lived though, I don't want to be picky, I just want to be sure there is no unwanted stuff left by mistake and everything is working as expected...
Since I don't want to spend my whole life preparing my Win10 ISO lol, I want to be 100% sure that once I'm done I'm done, not that at some point I still discover some unwanted bloats & craps coming out ruining my day lol
 
About iris is connected to eye control.
Can be connected to a driver for your hardware.
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Also remove any InboxApp, as they're connected when go online as MS fit harrasing users depending on they goals - like W10 users upgrade to 24H2 or 23H2.
 
Here NTL just lists Eye Control component (Support for eye-tracking hardware), which I have removed already.
Under Hardware Support Device I see no explicit eye tracking device on my setup, just Biometric devices - which I may try to remove.
Windows Copilot (Inbox App) and Bing Search (Inbox App) were removed already of course... I don't see any other Inbox App...
 
On my setup, if I type "inbox" as filter, I only see "Windows Copilot (InboxApp)" and "Bing Search (InboxApp)", both *removed already*...
I have not your components listed ! How is that ? Are you sure we are talking of the same Windows version ? Win10 22H2 here as I said...

As for backup and restore, I don't want to lose backup/restore features.

As I said, on my setup all those offending components (desktop spotlight, iris service etc) are listed under Windows Feature Experience Pack, which I have removed since beginning...
Any idea ? Nuhi ?
 
tistou77 said:
You don't have this component ?

Windows Features Experience Pack - LKG.IrisService
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Windows 10 does not have this component, IrisService is in the Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy folder
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BadHellie possibly you removed Windows Feature Experience Pack but some cumulative update restored this system app or part of it. You should always use Remove Reinstalls in NTLite after installing an update or simply do not install updates.
 
After removing Windows Feature Experience Pack only these files remain in MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy folder
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Check your ISO to see if only these files are kept. Windows is restoring the other files somehow, either through updates or in some other way in the background.
 
Evidently I am still having troubles to understand something about updates, despite I asked this on proposal on another thread lol...
You mentiond Remove Reinstalls, but that is a feature for Live installations as far as I can understand... I am not working live, my goal is to create a final ISO I can be happy with, without no more needs to operate on the system after installation.
Also I am not getting any updates since I have disabled the Windows Update service by all the means.
Rather, I suspect some update is still installed during Windows setup process, at an early stage, when it says "Installing Updates". Unfortunately nobody could clarify this point.
The only thing for sure is that if I manually remove Windows Feature Experience Pack from the builtin updates list, i get no more of CBS and all those cr@ps lol... but I don't understand WHY I have to do so ! Nuhi in another thread reassured me that my workflow is correct, and that NTL does everything with the correct order to prevent updates overwriting removed components... so I am really puzzled lol
 
BadHellie said:
Rather, I suspect some update is still installed during Windows setup process, at an early stage, when it says "Installing Updates". Unfortunately nobody could clarify this point.
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It is possible. That's why I always install Windows without an internet connection. But now that I opened your preset, you removed Windows Update component so this shouldn't happen.

To clear up any doubts, do what I said, after processing the ISO, mount it, open the sources\install.wim file with 7-Zip and go to the Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy folder and see if only the files in the screenshot I sent are in the folder.

Do you enable/integrate .NET 3.5 or any other features? This may cause some updates to only be fully installed during Windows installation.
 
Iris is the content provider service for Windows Spotlight.
ris.api.iris.microsoft.com
 
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