Help creating custom W11 23H2 with NTLite with some stuff removed and no Telemetry

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I want to create a custom Windows 11 23H2 installation.

I want to remove some stuff but not so much that it breaks too many things.

First thing I want all Telemetry gone and Microsoft Store wiped out. I have 0 intent to use anything related to MS Store so it can be wiped out just as in LTSC.

Also want Co Pilot and the AI garbage removed

Want Windows Defender removed or at least disabled. Is this possible without NOD32 complaining about Windows Security Center missing. I have a NOD32 subscription I want to use.

Also want Windows updates ability to completely disable or remove it. I hear they have Windows update almost impossible to disable on modern Windows and maybe need to remove it totally instead??

I am using 23H2 instead of 24H2 as I have read 24H2 borks certain legit copies and even modified games from working due to the changes in it. So gonna use 23H2.

I would have stuck with WIN10 but WIN10 assigns single threaded things to e-cores on Intel hybrid CPUs where as WIN11 scheduler works better and does it right.

Can I remove those things above and have a good gamer and general usage OS.
 
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Wolverine2349 said:
First thing I want all Telemetry gone and Microsoft Store wiped out. I have 0 intent to use anything related to MS Store so it can be wiped out just as in LTSC.

Also want Co Pilot and the AI garbage removed

Want Windows Defender removed or at least disabled. Is this possible without NOD32 complaining about Windows Security Center missing. I have a NOD32 subscription I want to use.

Also want Windows updates ability to completely disable or remove it. I hear hey have Windows update almost impossible to disable on modern Windows and maybe need to remove it totally instead??
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Telemetry (Asimov), Store-related features, Copilot, and Recall can be removed. Defender can be removed, but also disabled if you need to keep Security Center. WU can be also be removed.

Most of these removals will require a licensed copy of NTLite. Other lesser features can be removed for free.
 
garlin said:
Telemetry (Asimov), Store-related features, Copilot, and Recall can be removed. Defender can be removed, but also disabled if you need to keep Security Center. WU can be also be removed.

Most of these removals will require a licensed copy of NTLite. Other lesser features can be removed for free.
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Thanks for your help and yes I have a licensed 1 year subscription of NTLite purchased late March. These things can be removed without causing any compatibility side affects right or should I say in 98% of cases as long as you do not use MS Store or desire to get Windows Updates?

So Defender cannot be removed without also borking Security Center which NOD32 will complain about not having and on NOD32 forums a mod stated it was an essential service in response to someone using NOD32 on a modified lite Windows 10 or 11 version a year or 2 back if I recall. And there was no way to disable it notifications in NOD32 about it last I recall on that post. SO disable it is better choice than remove Defender in such case?
 
MS Store is only required for browsing Store apps, and acquiring licensed content. You can sideload and run UWP packages from outside of the Store, as long as you keep the UWP framework dependencies.

Normally you can't remove Defender without breaking WU. But since you're committed to no updates, then it's not a problem. You can disable Defender as a service (using a reg file), so Security Center is available for its other features.

Cortana (or what's left of it) can be removed without breaking the desktop. You just won't get search to work.
 
By forum rules, we're strictly not allowed to discuss non-MS activation methods. You'll have to discover that answer on your own.
 
If I do remove Asimov does it completely get rid of all telemetry or still stuff to disable. Or no because its removed. Or is Asimov just part of telemetry that can b removed without breaking everything??

And is using W10 Privacy still a good idea even if you remove Telemetry features from WIN11?
 
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By forum rules, we're strictly not allowed to discuss non-MS activation methods. You'll have to discover that answer on your own.
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Sorry yeah understood. Just so you know that I do not pirate any OS nor other software. I just hate having any online forced method to activate and use OS as I like it private and locked down and stuff ready to go offline with tweaks blocking connection to MS.

But yeah I understand why you cannot talk about it on the forum as non MS activation methods could be used for piracy even though many myself included use them with a legit Windows license paid for on my Windows PC I am using it on just to not be tied to MS Ecosystem of always being forced online and check in to use just an OS full functioning or check in every weeks or months or whatever. Miss the pre XP days where you paid for an OS and got to use it forever on an offline computer without any EULA violation and swap hardware without triggering any reactivation or anything. Windows NT 4.0 and 2000 were great in that regard. Windows 95/98/ME also were, but lets just say those operating systems were truly awful and totally different heritage which was much worse compared to NT variants back in the day.

Though many features of NTLite also violates EULA of Windows but if you have a legit licensed copy of WIN10/11 for the PC/laptop in question (which I do) both NTLite usage to remove stuff and offline activation methods are fair practice, even though the later is not allowed to be discussed as it can be used for piracy.

I do not mind some AV software or my phone and such and some online games requiring to be always online for a license but an OS, no way should it be that way. Yeah could switch to Linux or something but there are apps I use that require Windows plus games work so much better on Windows which they are native to!

One day we probably will all switch to Linux with direction Windows is going. And game support through WINE has gotten much better and come a long way, but it still has a ways to go.
 
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There's a clear policy on this forum for nuhi's benefit, so he's not exposed to possible DCMA actions as an individual dev.
 
garlin said:
There's a clear policy on this forum for nuhi's benefit, so he's not exposed to possible DCMA actions as an individual dev.
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Yes totally understood. And yeah he is the one who keeps Windows usable for us with NTLite and best to protect him as a dev.
 
I selected Windows Defender which also removes Security Center. Does that also remove Windows update or is there more?

How do I prevent Windows update form healing itself and coming back with Update Orchestrator Service and Windows Update Medic Service like can those be removed as well??

And where is Asimov and recall?? I do not see them as individual components to be removed? Which components need to be removed for those?
 
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WHich are the componenents I need to remove to remove Windows Update so it no longer works. I cannot find a componenet called WIndows Update anywhere?

I went to Compatibility box and unchecked Windows Update.

Which components do I need to remove to remove Windows Update? I have searched and its not clear which one or multiple components need to be removed.
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You've reposted this question on the W11 thread, so I won't repeat the answers.

Wolverine2349 said:
I selected Windows Defender which also removes Security Center. Does that also remove Windows update or is there more?
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Removing Defender does not remove WU. They're co-dependent, but the packages are separate.

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And where is Asimov and recall?? I do not see them as individual components to be removed? Which components need to be removed for those?
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Remoting and Privacy -> Windows Error Reporting API -> Telemetry Client
 
garlin said:
You've reposted this question on the W11 thread, so I won't repeat the answers.


Removing Defender does not remove WU. They're co-dependent, but the packages are separate.


Remoting and Privacy -> Windows Error Reporting API -> Telemetry Client
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Ok thanks. I had found the question while searching ad posted it again as I was struggling to find it during my search and caused me to post here before I found a more direct question and posted again. Sorry and someone replied and I found it Thanks for the answers.
 
garlin said:
MS Store is only required for browsing Store apps, and acquiring licensed content. You can sideload and run UWP packages from outside of the Store, as long as you keep the UWP framework dependencies.

Normally you can't remove Defender without breaking WU. But since you're committed to no updates, then it's not a problem. You can disable Defender as a service (using a reg file), so Security Center is available for its other features.

Cortana (or what's left of it) can be removed without breaking the desktop. You just won't get search to work.
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Which search is broken by removing Cortana. Just start menu search or does it also break searching for files and folders in Windows Explore when browsing drives and folders?
 
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