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Clang2 said:
but we still got telemetry despite people wanting to get rid of it.
i aint got time to wait for 5/6/7+++ in the vain hope ms "might" remove something, ive got StD today so liting, dism package removal, disabling in "add or remove programs - features", disabling by group policy or kludging as a last resort all is fair in war.
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Telemetry, if anonymous, is actually not that bad as it helps programmers debug their programs. The problem is individually identifiable telemetry.

Microsoft has a detailed (long) page about minimizing telemetry data collection on Win10/11, and I always include their "baseline" configuration in my NTLite images.

Taosd said:
the only positives i can take away from it is, at the moment you have to have a npu for most of it ( apparently even recall ) and thankfully i haven't.

now watch them move the goalposts to make sure everyone has it
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Current generation GPUs (nVidia 40xx series) are at least a few times faster than an NPU, and so they could be used for recall, and nVidia has already announced RTX AI PCs.
 
Plus the irony of being intolerant of telemetry gathering, but still wanting all the direct benefits such data creates.

You want a reliable security platform or effective antispam filter, but don't want to contribute to the group data set which the AI (machine learning) engines use for training. If it's marketing data, go ahead and provide your preferences. But I don't want to hear it's bad, while you're reaping the rewards of telemetry gathered from other folks.
 
Annie Ng said:
Telemetry, if anonymous, is actually not that bad as it helps programmers debug their programs. The problem is individually identifiable telemetry.

Microsoft has a detailed (long) page about minimizing telemetry data collection on Win10/11, and I always include their "baseline" configuration in my NTLite images.


Current generation GPUs (nVidia 40xx series) are at least a few times faster than an NPU, and so they could be used for recall, and nVidia has already announced RTX AI PCs.
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Annie Ng said:
Telemetry, if anonymous, is actually not that bad as it helps programmers debug their programs. The problem is individually identifiable telemetry.

Microsoft has a detailed (long) page about minimizing telemetry data collection on Win10/11, and I always include their "baseline" configuration in my NTLite images.


Current generation GPUs (nVidia 40xx series) are at least a few times faster than an NPU, and so they could be used for recall, and nVidia has already announced RTX AI PCs.
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i jumped ship from Nvid because had to RMA cards pretty much every time i upgraded. happier on team red

but the new 'phase' will mean whole new systems, as per Microsoft's words....

Copilot+ PCs hardware requirements - Microsoft Support

support.microsoft.com support.microsoft.com
 
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Taosd said:
i jumped ship from Nvid because had to RMA cards pretty much every time i upgraded. happier on team red
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Is it a problem of the Green chip or the card vendor?

Btw, Red is plenty good, especially at higher resolutions. Unfortunately, current generation lags behind Green in ray tracing games like Cyberpunk 2077, so I stay with Green for now. I do hear that the next gen Red will support much faster ray tracing.

Taosd said:
but the new 'phase' will mean whole new systems, as per Microsoft's words
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Probably those same people who said VR and "Metaverse" are the future? (MS sells HoloLens and just had job cuts)
 
Annie Ng said:
Is it a problem of the Green chip or the card vendor?

Btw, Red is plenty good, especially at higher resolutions. Unfortunately, current generation lags behind Green in ray tracing games like Cyberpunk 2077, so I stay with Green for now. I do hear that the next gen Red will support much faster ray tracing.


Probably those same people who said VR and "Metaverse" are the future? (MS sells HoloLens and just had job cuts
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DOA cards. hardware failures...... but ray tracing isn't everyone's cup of tea, especially if the computer being used is multipurpose ( streaming / gaming / audio recording / video editing etc etc ) . If anything ray tracing isn't that important to me.

VR, i know a lot of people who use it, but it is still popular amongst a lot of horror game devs and content creators i know still use it. not personally a fan of that as no good when you can only use one eye.
 
Clang2 said:
i didnt have the latency issues(and time spent trying to fix them) with the r5 230 that i had with a gt710.
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then again i didnt know that there was a problem until other people started saying that there was a problem, everything seemingly worked fine up till that point.

this is one particular rabbit hole i wish i had never discovered.
 
Annie Ng said:
Is it a problem of the Green chip or the card vendor?
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card makers dont make the drivers, green does so they cant pass the buck on driver problems.

Taosd said:
DOA cards. hardware failures......
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facepalm. only hardware that ever died after a very short service life was one of those bloody awful MDT hdds, i dont even think i got 6 months out of it, prolly half that if i was lucky.
 
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Heads up for everyone out there on W11, and possible future W10 builds...Microsoft introduced a feature that's currently active in the latest W11 ISO build release that intentionally throttles software, such as browsers. The cynic in me says it will throttle Edge less or not at all, but I didn't care to test that. You can feel the throttling for those sensitive to speed variances, but you can also see it in task manager, by right-clicking on a process, such as Chrome while it's running and seeing if "Efficiency Mode" is checked. I went online to find confirmation (link) and a solution.

To fix this, it has to be done on each individual app that's being put into efficiency mode, since as far as the internet knows there's no global option to disable it yet. For Chrome, exit the browser if it's running, then right-click on the shortcut and in the target line parameters add a space after the end where it says .exe and paste the following and click apply then OK: --disable-features=UseEcoQoSForBackgroundProcess

On that note, here's the full target line I use, because it has extra benefits: --incognito https://www.google.com/ --disable-features=UseEcoQoSForBackgroundProcess --simulate-outdated-no-au="01 Jan 2025"

The "Incognito" tweak always starts Chrome in that mode, and the URL next to it tells Chrome what website to open Incognito into instead of the new tab page, while the "simulate" tweak forces Chrome to stop checking for updates until the date specified.
 
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Clang2 said:
"prevent Windows from creating a per-user service when a user signs on"
credit - abbodi86
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By default, per-user services are created so there's better security isolation for background services. If two or more users are logged on, then each user gets a private instance of the service so data can't be accidentally leaked to the other users.

For a PC where you don't have multiple users logged on, it's not very useful. The only problem is when managing user services, it renames the per-user services with a persistently assigned hash name. Which makes scripting a little more challenging.
ie. CDPUserSvc -> CDPUserSvc_1bf5729​

Disabling the "per-user" part of it means there's just one copy of each service, and it never has a hash name attached. For a single-user PC, again there isn't that much change except it looks "pretty" when listing processes or services.
 
question - noticed this from the thread that abbodis link came from
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the SvcHostSplitDis entry - would setting it to 0 or deleting it stop the PimIndexMaintenanceSvc from creating multiple instances that show up in task manager? if it does, then we could stop the multiple instances for all services?
 
No, the managing value is UserServiceFlags for each affected Service.

There isn't a global flag, you have to duplicate it for all the per-user Services (by security file, GPO, or reg file). Obviously if you removed the matching service's Component, then it's no longer there to annoy you.
 
After re-reading the docs, MS is implying you use a GPO (within a domain) to force execution of a script or push a reg file. There is no actual policy template which handles this situation.

Just use a reg file.
 

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excellent, thank you :) . its a bummer that there isnt a policy for it but its better than using the winaero and w10forum methods where you have to set according to the amount of ram installed. would be good if nuhi could incorporate this.
 
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