Overcoming problems of NTLITE 2.3.2.8502

[clarensio]

For NUHI...

No news about the reported bugs and the resolution of:

Get Started

Win 11 Start Menu - All apps

Windows 11. In the Start menu -> All apps, after optimization with NTLITE, the item "Get Started" appears which I would like to delete. Does anyone know if it is possible with NTLIte (maybe I skipped a few items ...) to disable it or if it needs a script or if it needs to disable some service...

www.ntlite.com

this item appears in NTLITE [Tips (Get Started)], but even if deflated it continues to be displayed in Start -> All app - therefore it cannot be deleted from NTLITE; with the solution proposed momentarily it "disappears" but with the following CU, it reappears (cannot be eliminated) since it modifies Windows \ SystemApps \ MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy \ AppxManifest.xml: it is clear that a solution - if possible - must instead be certain and permanent

Option features

Optional Features Win 10 21H2

If I remember correctly with the previous versions I was able to (natively) eliminate all these Optional features I will also be stupid but now I can't anymore. Has anything changed with the 8500? am I wrong? Where do I find these Optional features in NTLITE? Thanks

www.ntlite.com

these items do not appear and therefore clearly cannot be eliminated / inhibited by NTLITE

Teams and problems about missing components and features

I can't delete Microsoft Teams

Good morning I'm using version 2.3.2.8502, in the "Components" section I deselected "Teams", but in the ISO I still find myself this app. How come you can't eliminate it, I'm wrong? Thanks

www.ntlite.com

there is no trace of Teams anywhere (many users do not have visibility of this item, few users see it) so that NTLITE does not allow any management of it.

At least imagine times...

Tnx

 

[nuhi]

Thanks for the summary.
Btw I don't need to work on Saturday and Sunday, so replying here because I had a minute to spare.

- Get Started, yeah that one seems to be special somehow, will get to it eventually, that's not as important as some other tasks that are not listed here.

- Optional features, I don't understand the question, can you list one feature which you want to remove and couldn't?

- Teams, that was replied in that topic, talk to Microsoft not to force bloat on us, or use one of the suggested methods of blocking.

 

[clarensio]

- Optional features, I don't understand the question, can you list one feature which you want to remove and couldn't?

- Teams, that was replied in that topic, talk to Microsoft not to force bloat on us, or use one of the suggested methods of blocking.

I don't understand what MS has to do with when the Teams app appears to some and others not... and so some may (try to) delete it...

I'm confused...

Then if you officially tell me that NTLITE cannot disable this app...

 

[nuhi]

I don't understand what MS has to do with when the Teams app appears to some and others not... and so some may (try to) delete it...

I'm confused...

Then if you officially tell me that NTLITE cannot disable this app...

Thanks for the optional features tip.

- Paint, seems fine, let me know if that one is not included in your report, same for all the rest that were "fine" on my end below
- Quick Assist is part of Remote Assistance, fine here
- Notepad, that one is not present as a component in Win10. Added it to Win10 and fixed existing Win11 app removal features leftover in the next update, out on Tuesday.
- Fax and Scan, corrected something which belonged to Printing, should be better in the next version if you were keeping Printing
- Media Player, fine here
- Powershell, fine here
- Wordpad, fine here

For Teams discussion no point in duplicating the existing topic here, in which you also posted.

 

[clarensio]

For Teams discussion no point in duplicating the existing topic here, in which you also posted.

I know that I had also posted there (in this tread I did the overall) to represent that some have the option to disable Teams (DMD61) others (me and Crypticus, for example) that that item - Teams - for the same version does not they own it; this is the mystery...

Anyway we look forward to the new release with confidence.

Thanks

 

[crypticus]

because that guy imported a custom iso which had teams inside. component list read dynamically if your wim has it. ntlite shows it. so its normal now. and i think nuhi fixed feature problems too. i'm waiting on edge fix for print UI tho

 

[clarensio]

because that guy imported a custom iso which had teams inside. component list read dynamically if your wim has it. ntlite shows it. so its normal now. and i think nuhi fixed feature problems too. i'm waiting on edge fix for print UI tho

If so ... no problem

 

[AeonX]

- Optional features, I don't understand the question, can you list one feature which you want to remove and couldn't?

nuhi he doesn't want to remove he wants to disable the features on demand.

- Fax and Scan, corrected something which belonged to Printing, should be better in the next version if you were keeping Printing

When I remove this in Components the corresponding feature on demand is still present. Good to know you will fix that Print Management Console has the same problem so I disabled it in Features -> Features On Demand (Capabilities). If you can take a look at that too.

clarensio calm down and wait for the next NTLite version nuhi already knows about the problems with optional features (features on demand) this is related to the removal of duplicates and this will certainly be fixed. And try to be more clear on what you want, if possible tell step by step what needs to be done for the problem to appear so that nuhi can replicate on his side what happens.

Regarding Teams, it appears that there is a registry entry that prevents this from being installed. I saw this in MDL but I don't remember where. If I find it again I'll post it here.

EDIT:
I found this:
https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...hat-app-in-settings.84235/page-3#post-1710402

 

[crypticus]

wow thank you for that really i think thats what nuhi needed for teams configuration. i bet there is something about get started and other adware app links that comes via contentdelivery

 

[garlin]

Not for Get Started, it's part of Client.CBS package so it can't be installed separately. The next question is does OneDrive have a similar control setting? Managed environments may not want OneDrive for security reasons.

 

[crypticus]

I will install Windows ADK System Image Manager and wonder around a bit

 

[crypticus]

from Windows Imaging and Configuration Designer;
View attachment 6253
<CleanPC>
<CleanPCWithoutRetainingUserData>Enable</CleanPCWithoutRetainingUserData>
</CleanPC>

from Windows System Image Manager;
no onedrive or any other entry for apps
View attachment 6254

 

[AeonX]

I will install Windows ADK System Image Manager and wonder around a bit

I would suggest this.

 

[AeonX]

The next question is does OneDrive have a similar control setting? Managed environments may not want OneDrive for security reasons.

I don't know, but on Windows 10 you can avoid installing this by removing its registry entry:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"OneDriveSetup"=-

I don't know about Windows 11.

 

[crypticus]

I don't have problem about onedrive either, removing with ntlite is good enough for me. i searched for garlin but no luck....

 

[garlin]

CleanPC might not work, but you could still try.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi.../mdm/configuration-service-provider-reference

CleanPC CSP

Home	Pro	Business	Enterprise	Education	Mobile
No	No	Yes	Yes	Yes	No

https://social.technet.microsoft.co...uwp-app-from-windows-10?forum=win10itprosetup

a syncml file for the CleanPC CSP which should remove all pre-installed apps (from https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/client-management/mdm/cleanpc-csp) doesn't even manage to remove candy crush, just resets win 10 to factory default, it might be usefull to remove the crapware HP, Dell and lenovo install, though a simple remove-appxpackage would be easier and quicker.

 

[garlin]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Communications]
"ConfigureChatAutoInstall"=dword:00000000

Verdict: No Teams, but needs to be paired with hiding ChatIcon from Taskbar (using either HKCU or Policy versions).

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"OneDriveSetup"=-

Verdict: No OneDrive, also confirmed by this poster:
https://github.com/DrEmpiricism/Optimize-Offline/issues/140#issuecomment-554690599

With this confirmation, I will update the Clean Start Menu/Taskbar post.

 

[crypticus]

Verdict: No Teams, but needs to be paired with hiding ChatIcon from Taskbar (using either HKCU or Policy versions).


Verdict: No OneDrive, also confirmed by this poster:
https://github.com/DrEmpiricism/Optimize-Offline/issues/140#issuecomment-554690599

With this confirmation, I will update the Clean Start Menu/Taskbar post.

nice

CleanPC might not work, but you could still try.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi.../mdm/configuration-service-provider-reference

CleanPC CSP

Home	Pro	Business	Enterprise	Education	Mobile
No	No	Yes	Yes	Yes	No

https://social.technet.microsoft.co...uwp-app-from-windows-10?forum=win10itprosetup

still can be added in case its a bug and microsoft fixes it in the future

 

[nuhi]

AeonX, thank you and the poster at MDL (hydropepon) of course, for the Teams tweak, now that's a clean method
Also thanks to garlin for confirming it, and to others for your help.

Will be adding it as a tweak in the next one, out tomorrow night.