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Hello nuhi i got some different results, and have some questions. I hope this doesn't take your time and u can solve them quickly, thank you...

1) windows update installs intell gpu driver even if it is installed and more recent version. (install drivers only if not installed is enabled see preset) - https://i.hizliresim.com/Ydm9oZ.png

2) edge and security center is not being reinstalled now after cu update, is something fixed or new in ntlite, or am i just lucky?

3) can't enable netfx3.5 on win8.1proTR. ntlite says my files are missing so my msdn sxs folder is not enough for ntlite? (redownloaded many times also u can check preset) https://i.hizliresim.com/86Arj7.png - https://i.hizliresim.com/mXmD00.png (if asked i can provide vanilla msdn iso and sxs folder)

4) on win8.1 one normal update is not being integrated it just skips it, also u can check preset - https://i.hizliresim.com/DOpAjv.png - https://i.hizliresim.com/VQm7jZ.png

5) some reg entries are not integrated (also ntlite's oem information part in unattended setup is missing this feature, this reg entry is/or can be about oem information)

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
"RegisteredOrganization"="XXX"

6) CLR still sometimes not enabled (because i don't see the registery input)

7) i have weird problem about virtual keybord showing up on boot - https://i.hizliresim.com/NLmojX.png - https://streamable.com/nvzwk

8) oem information is missing or can be added i talked about on problem 5

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
"RegisteredOrganization"="XXX"
 
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ege914 said:
1) windows update installs intell gpu driver even if it is installed and more recent version. (install drivers only if not installed is enabled see preset) - https://i.hizliresim.com/Ydm9oZ.png

2) edge and security center is not being reinstalled now after cu update, is something fixed or new in ntlite, or am i just lucky?

3) can't enable netfx3.5 on win8.1proTR. ntlite says my files are missing so my msdn sxs folder is not enough for ntlite? (redownloaded many times also u can check preset) https://i.hizliresim.com/86Arj7.png - https://i.hizliresim.com/mXmD00.png (if asked i can provide vanilla msdn iso and sxs folder)

4) on win8.1 one normal update is not being integrated it just skips it, also u can check preset - https://i.hizliresim.com/DOpAjv.png - https://i.hizliresim.com/VQm7jZ.png

5) some reg entries are not integrated (also ntlite's oem information part in unattended setup is missing this feature, this reg entry is/or can be about oem information)

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
"RegisteredOrganization"="XXX"

6) CLR still sometimes not enabled (because i don't see the registery input)

7) i have weird problem about virtual keybord showing up on boot - https://i.hizliresim.com/NLmojX.png - https://streamable.com/nvzwk

8) oem information is missing or can be added i talked about on problem 5

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
"RegisteredOrganization"="XXX"
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Do you have this problem? What about the first one described here?
 
ege914 said:
Hello nuhi i got some different results, and have some questions. I hope this doesn't take your time and u can solve them quickly, thank you...

1) windows update installs intell gpu driver even if it is installed and more recent version. (install drivers only if not installed is enabled see preset) - https://i.hizliresim.com/Ydm9oZ.png

2) edge and security center is not being reinstalled now after cu update, is something fixed or new in ntlite, or am i just lucky?

3) can't enable netfx3.5 on win8.1proTR. ntlite says my files are missing so my msdn sxs folder is not enough for ntlite? (redownloaded many times also u can check preset) https://i.hizliresim.com/86Arj7.png - https://i.hizliresim.com/mXmD00.png (if asked i can provide vanilla msdn iso and sxs folder)

4) on win8.1 one normal update is not being integrated it just skips it, also u can check preset - https://i.hizliresim.com/DOpAjv.png - https://i.hizliresim.com/VQm7jZ.png

5) some reg entries are not integrated (also ntlite's oem information part in unattended setup is missing this feature, this reg entry is/or can be about oem information)

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
"RegisteredOrganization"="XXX"

6) CLR still sometimes not enabled (because i don't see the registery input)

7) i have weird problem about virtual keybord showing up on boot - https://i.hizliresim.com/NLmojX.png - https://streamable.com/nvzwk

8) oem information is missing or can be added i talked about on problem 5

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
"RegisteredOrganization"="XXX"
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1) The DCH driver type which requires installer/Store setup, cannot be integrated as far as I know. More info here.

2) 1909 being newer (smaller CU for now) and the removed pieces in question haven't been updated yet, so they don't reappear.
If you notice that nothing returns, let me know.

3) Win8.1 has a bug with updates that is even on full Windows. Enable .NET 3.5 before/together when integrating updates.

4) I have tried integrating that KB alone and the NTLite's update list for Win8.1, it works fine.
Integrate before/together with removing/cleaning/configuring anything.
Start fresh each time when changing image updates, using the preset it's easy to do so, and cleanest.

5) Maybe it's overwritten by Unattended. There exists Registered Organization as well, try that instead of a reg.

6) What is CLR, how to see the issue? "Sometimes" can mean Windows bug as well.

7) Never saw that, check this out for more info. Let me know if you confirm anything in a preset causing it.

8) See 5, and let me know if I am missing the point, maybe it works without Unattended, or maybe Windows resets that key on Windows setup.
To test that edit hive manually (under Integrate - Registry - Hives on the right), and check it with regedit.exe after setup, testy with no reg integration or unattended if needed.
In translation, NTLite doesn't treat some keys differently, Windows might.
Also you might move it to the Post-setup page, just drop the Reg file there, see if that helps (applied at the end of setup).
 
nuhi said:
1) The DCH driver type which requires installer/Store setup, cannot be integrated as far as I know. More info here.

2) 1909 being newer (smaller CU for now) and the removed pieces in question haven't been updated yet, so they don't reappear.
If you notice that nothing returns, let me know.

3) Win8.1 has a bug with updates that is even on full Windows. Enable .NET 3.5 before/together when integrating updates.

4) I have tried integrating that KB alone and the NTLite's update list for Win8.1, it works fine.
Integrate before/together with removing/cleaning/configuring anything.
Start fresh each time when changing image updates, using the preset it's easy to do so, and cleanest.

5) Maybe it's overwritten by Unattended. There exists Registered Organization as well, try that instead of a reg.

6) What is CLR, how to see the issue? "Sometimes" can mean Windows bug as well.

7) Never saw that, check this out for more info. Let me know if you confirm anything in a preset causing it.

8) See 5, and let me know if I am missing the point, maybe it works without Unattended, or maybe Windows resets that key on Windows setup.
To test that edit hive manually (under Integrate - Registry - Hives on the right), and check it with regedit.exe after setup, testy with no reg integration or unattended if needed.
In translation, NTLite doesn't treat some keys differently, Windows might.
Also you might move it to the Post-setup page, just drop the Reg file there, see if that helps (applied at the end of setup).
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1) i'm not integrating, i'm installing it from intel's website (latest version) i do this while ethernet is not connected. after that when i connect to internet wu finds older version of the same driver and installs it instead...

2) thanks

3) i was already integrating and enabling together... but...

4) i was doing everything together so integrating is the first step i think my iso has a problem... can u find me a way to get win8.1 msdn iso

5) thanks

6) i'm talking about using latest netframwork... which is in ntlite settings part

7) it happens after fresh install so i think its about my preset, i will check...
its about services.msc... i'm gonna check preset for it

8) will do thanks

can u also check other thread: https://www.ntlite.com/community/index.php?threads/hostrefresh-failed.1362/
 
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ege914 said:
1) i'm not integrating, i'm installing it from intel's website (latest version) i do this while ethernet is not connected. after that when i connect to internet wu finds older version of the same driver and installs it instead...

3) i was already integrating and enabling together... but...

4) i was doing everything together so integrating is the first step i think my iso has a problem... can u find me a way to get win8.1 msdn iso

6) i'm talking about using latest netframwork... which is in ntlite settings part

7) it happens after fresh install so i think its about my preset, i will check...
its about services.msc... i'm gonna check preset for it

can u also check other thread: https://www.ntlite.com/community/index.php?threads/hostrefresh-failed.1362/
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1) seems like Windows somehow sees the Windows Update driver as more fitting, as to why might be interesting, but outside of the scope of this tool until proven otherwise.

3) so you're saying Win8.1 .NET 3.5 enabling on a full image is not working? Have you confirmed that, no other changes?
Maybe retry when you get a clean ISO.

4) try here or here.

6) oh that, yeah the CLR setting is delayed in post-setup at the end of install as runonce reapply

Will reply to host refresh thread.
Thanks.
 
1) yes i think its about microsoft too but as u said its not about ntlite so its ok if u don't have more fitting solution than hiding update thanks

3) nuhi i checked it, i can't integrate updates and enable netfx3.5 together on win8.1.. i have to enable netfx3.5 first and then integrate updates! i think u can fix this. netfx3.5 has to be first. its not about processing them together there is really a order... it comes first or else it is skipped.
+can u also check KB3012702 it is the only update cant be integrated others are fine

4) thanks

5) checked yes it exists.. thanks

6) if u can check it, it would be great... because i think i can't see registery entry when its enabled
 
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ege914 said:
3) nuhi i checked it, i can't integrate updates and enable netfx3.5 together on win8.1.. i have to enable netfx3.5 first and then integrate updates! i think u can fix this. netfx3.5 has to be first. its not about processing them together there is really a order... it comes first or else it is skipped.
+can u also check KB3012702 it is the only update cant be integrated others are fine
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That's a Windows issue, I could warn or change sequence, but it's a lot to do for an old Win8.1, warning and skipping that update (put it to Post-setup page instead) should suffice.

If you're missing the label from the image it's 99% most likely the UUP bug.
Let me know if you prove that the image edition actually exists before reporting it.
Thx.
 
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