Will removing WMP in Win 11 hurt gaming FPS?

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I ask because it used to be the case that WMP would hurt gaming FPS and some games depended on it. However, the intermediate video recommended on the site strongly advocates for removing it.

I followed this tutorial, plus black viper's win10 safe services removal and something has hurt my fps, I'm trying to troubleshoot this a little. No, I don't have the preset because I deleted everything in cleanup.
 
Windows Media Player is required by some games to play., it shouldnt hurt fps
 
WMP doesn't run when you're playing games. If you have WMP Network Sharing, in theory that might be a resource problem only if there's a network client checking your Media Library. Otherwise they're full of crap about FPS impact.

Some games expect to have WMP around to borrow its codecs. That's the developer's choice instead of using a newer codec library.
 
I purchased Driver Booster for Steam, a one-off payment so it seems better than most driver programs. It has helped two games run more smoothly; although, it didn't help the firestrike score too much. Maybe that is to be expected.
 
Have a son using Steam too - but he never complained about gaming or speed with the NTLited image i make.
Only installed LAVfilter to manipulate Windows Foundation Pack (inbuild Windows codecs) to overwrite .mkv with CodecTweakTool as not all MKV made video is compatible with WMP/ WMC.
 
Taosd said:
Windows Media Player is required by some games to play., it shouldnt hurt fps
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There was a recent split of "Windows Media Codecs (Core)", and if someone sees that keeping only that wasn't enough, please let me know of the game and how to test.
Thanks.
 
nuhi it is only certain games, altho i wouldn't honestly worry about it, as they can be dealt with on a case by case basis
 
nuhi said:
and if someone sees that keeping only that wasn't enough, please let me know of the game and how to test.
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Txmmy mentioned here:

"Windows Media Player should not be removed it removes media foundation from feature list and games like rust tell you media foundation is gone"

I think he refers to the following:

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Thanks AeonX, I am working forwards from Txmmy's template and adding components that I think I need. I think it is safer this way.
 
Why remove VMP in the first place to replace it with another player - it've a minimum <5 mb of footprint on a W11 install?
 
francis11 said:
Why remove VMP in the first place to replace it with another player - it've a minimum <5 mb of footprint on a W11 install?
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WMP even working with LAV Filters is very outdated in features besides being much heavier than MPC-HC and other alternatives. So I don't see why keep something in the system that I won't be using and it won't do anything. The exception to this might be Internet Explorer as removing it causes a series of problems with some programs that continue to rely on its existence in the image.

WMP also has files in Program Files (x86), System32 and SysWOW64 so that it occupies around 40 MB.

Code: 
DISM /Image:NLTmpMnt /Get-CapabilityInfo /CapabilityName:Media.WindowsMediaPlayer~~~~0.0.12.0

Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
Version: 10.0.19041.844

Image Version: 10.0.19045.2486

Capability Identity : Media.WindowsMediaPlayer~~~~0.0.12.0
Name : Media.WindowsMediaPlayer
State : Installed
Display Name : Windows Media Player
Description : Play audio and video files on your local machine and on the Internet.
Download Size : 15.09 MB
Install Size : 40.84 MB

The operation completed successfully.

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But by default NTLite only removes hard links, probably there are files in the WinSxS folder as well and NTLite keeps them for compatibility with Cumulative Updates. Dism should do the same. So that 40 MB is never released in free space.

So I agree that it's pointless to remove it since there will be no performance gain. Unless you disable Servicing Stack compatibility to enable deep removal of NTLite.
 
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